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Text on screen: Where is PIMCO seeing the most compelling commerical real estate opportunities today?
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John Murray: Today, we're seeing the most compelling opportunities in the hospitality space, and we're also starting to see some early opportunities in a more distressed form in the retail space.
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Starting with the hotel space, clearly, just given the capital pressures, the liquidity shortfalls in that space, we're seeing opportunities to provide either rescue capital, or in some cases to acquire loans from banks looking to shed some of their exposure in advance of regulatory changes. So, as an example there, we recently acquired a loan on a newly-built hotel in the northeast, from a global bank that was looking to get ahead of some of their challenged assets, if you will. In this case, this wasn’t a deeply-distressed, non-performing loan, but it certainly was one that was technically in default.
1:07:30.4 So in this case, the bank wanted to shed some of that default risk before having to take any sort of risk reserves against the loan, and instead decided to sell it. So, we acquired the loan at a discount to PAR, and the seller actually provided financing as well on the position. Now, why we like this position is that we're essentially coming in at over a 30 percent discount to the borrowers’ basis on this newly-completed asset. Broadly speaking, when we look at the hotel sector today, the market is typically underwriting a return to 2019 revenue levels by ’23, ’24.
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1:08:26.5 Looking at the retail sector, it’s early days in terms of opportunities there. But we are under contract to acquire an asset today at about a 50 percent discount to where the asset was under contract just before covid. Now, to us, that is the type of quantum you need to see in pricing changes and corrections in the retail space for new ideas to make sense. In this case, to convert the property at least partially into residential uses. Again, we see that as a compelling opportunity that will build over time as distress built in that sector, but you do need to see a significant pricing correction from pre-covid levels for those opportunities to make sense.
Text on screen: How can investors take advantage of commercial real estate opportunities?
1:09:36.6 Investors can take advantage of the opportunities in commercial real estate both from a debt or an equity perspective in a number of ways, just given the massive dispersion we're seeing in the sector today. The uncertainty we're seeing, at least in parts of the commercial real estate sector today, as well as the general liquidity shortfalls that at least some parts of commercial real estate are experiencing today.
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So, starting with the equity side, there are offensive opportunities in the industrial space, in the residential space, to develop or re-develop assets, just given the growing demand from a capital perspective in those sectors, and positive fundamentals, if you will. Conversely, on the distressed side, again, just given the lack of liquidity in the hotel space today, some of the building pressures that we're starting to see in the retail space, we do expect to see attractive opportunities from a development or redevelopment or repositioning perspective in those sectors.
1:10:34.4 Turning to the debt side, just given covid’s impacts that have kept a lot of lenders on the sidelines post-covid, what we're seeing is an opportunity for those with capital
Text on screen: TITLE – Opportunities in CRE lending, BULLETS – Rescue capital to meet liquidity shortfalls, New mortgages on value add and opportunistic real estate, Acquiring mortgages at discounted prices from banks reducing exposure
to generate loans at attractive levels through a number of different means.
Number one would be rescue capital. So, in the case of hotels or other assets that need short-term bridge financing, that’s an opportunity. As well, any sort of new acquisitions that we're seeing today, or new developments if you will, attractive debt opportunities there.
1:11:19.1 And lastly, in select cases, opportunities to acquire notes from banks looking to reduce some of their exposure, again, those banks looking to get ahead of some of the challenges that they face. And those types of situations again, what we like about the debt space is, we're seeing opportunities today to come in at post-covid valuations at lower loan to value ratios than we were seeing pre-covid, and in many cases, at spreads that are 100 basis points plus wider than they were at pre-covid levels.
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